Although originally published by Faultline USA on February 28, 2008, these folks are still hard at work today spinning their phony baloney.
Original article follows:
Last week I pointed out that there is a Republicans for Obama web site in an article called Republicans for Obama??? Sure . . . I signed up for their e-mail alerts and have been reading the vapid feedback. Fortunately, there is at least one true conservative who is questioning these folks on that site. They are claiming that they are all “sweetness and light” and Oh so supportive of one another. But when this conservative began to ask questions . . . Well you be the judge.
"Sandi, I am glad to hear you changed parties. You should not have been a Republican for so many years if you didn't believe in conservative principles. That is the problem I see with so many on this website, they say they are Republicans, but they do not believe in conservative principles; or, they are conservatives, but do not realize how liberal Obama is. Most people on this site don't know what Obama stands for or who he really is. Not ONE person I have seen (including Tony who was just on the Laura Ingraham show representing Republicans for Obama) has been able to state in their own words (or even Obama's words for that matter) what Obama stands for, other than "hope" and "change." They just point people to Obama's website. Sometims I wonder if they themselves have ever really analyzed what's on his website. It's ridiculous to be supporting someone when you don't really know what they stand for. I hope you know. I hope you do your due diligence and check it out rather than just catch the emotional wave that Obama has stirred up.
I am sorry about your situation with your son. This type of thing is simply a result of the liberalization of our society (happening since the 50's/60's), and of course, to the degree the school system is responsible for anything, the very liberal teachers union and lobby is also responsible for this type of problem. For decades now the TEA has been basically in control of the education system in this country. (And by the way, the Bush "No Child Left Behind" which is so controversial, was written by Ted Kennedy.) Of course you realize that with Obama in office, the most liberal Senator ever, there will be more of the same. Hope you're for that, because that's what you'll get with Obama.
I wish all Republicans for Obama would admit openly that they are not really Republicans, they are RINOs (Republicans in Name Only) and that they join the Democrat (Progressive Socialist) party where they belong. These people have been gradually liberalized by society over the years and no longer even know what they believe or what conservative principles the Republican Party stands for or why. You cannot be a REAL Republican and then support the most leftist, liberal person in the Senate -- not if you know what he stands for. It's absurd. If you want less in-fighting within any political party, you need to examine what you believe, and align yourself with the proper party. Anything else just causes division in a party and you people are so upset about that. Debate to liberals is "negative" and "contentious" and "argumentative", even "hateful", and they can't handle it. So it's best to just surround yourselves with those who believe just as you do. It would make you happier and you would feel more like Sandi here, bubbling over after finding this group.
Please, do yourselves a favor and join the party you REALLY should belong to, and quit calling yourselves Republicans when you really aren't. Otherwise, examine Obama with your brain instead of your emotions and SNAP OUT OF IT!
I forgot to mention that I was very disappointed in hearing Tony on the Laura Ingraham show because I was hoping to really get some good content from him as to why he supported Obama. But even he, representing this organization, couldn't state one thing Obama has done to deserve a conservative's support.
Thank you, Emily at http://bouncingrealitychecks.blogspot.com/"
Here’s the thoughtful response she got from the so-called Republican for Obama . . .
"I felt the same way, but Laura Ingraham is so RUDE- she wasn't about to let anyone on her show who could effectively communicate why they support anything other than what she calls "conservative" principles. WHATEVER THE hell that means! She talks over people, interrupts, etc. like all those other talk show hosts, left and right. Just another ego-driven, out of touch shock-jock. It's what I'm so sick of. And it's partly why I support Obama. I am a republican, and couldn't change parties, cause i just don't care that much about politial parties and don't like a lot of the things partisan democrats stand for either, I care more about the person running for office and how they present their case to me. That may make me wishy-washy or a "moderate" but so be it if that's what I am! I cerainly don't want to go back to the days of Billary! I'd also like to know how these so-called conservatives really think they can continue to stay afloat when the demographics of this country is changing so rapidly. The white male will be the minority soon and they'd better figure out ways to appeal to folks other than those angry white males if they plan to stay alive. Constantly sounding bigoted against Hispanics certainly won't do it. They may not think they're racist, but if they think they don't SOUND racist than they are even stupider than i thought, and sadly i think that's what's happening, when they go on and on about anti-immigration and closing the borders. I get so sick and tired of it. That's just one example of why i am disillusioned by the so-called conservatives. They've "hijacked" the republican party now and they're doomed for failure. There are so many things Barack Obama states that I agree with that i can't help but support him and i can't wait to vote for him on March 4th, 2008 in Ohio."
Here’s the reply from the real conservative:
"BINGO! Your first 2 sentences demonstrate why a Republican (but not a REAL Republican) could support Obama -- you do not have a CLUE what conservative principles are! (you say "whatever the hell that means"). That is what I have been trying to point out, many Republicans these days DO NOT KNOW what the Republican party even stands for, but they're members! Personally, I don't join groups or clubs when I don't have a clue what they stand for. It's ridiculous! Be an Independent if you don't know for sure what you stand for, then you can flip-flop all over the place and everyone will expect it from you. (By the way, I don't have any problem with Independents). What I do have a problem with is people who pretend to be something they are not, or claim to be something they're not, and then those who don't have a clue what they are because they haven't used their working brains yet to figure it out.
As for Laura Ingraham, she is a sweet person (perhaps you are confusing her with Ann Coulter). Laura gave Tony plenty of time to answer the questions, and he just couldn't find the beef! Shouldn't she call him on it? Or, for the sake of political correctness, maybe she should have just ignored it and not mentioned the fact that he hadn't given one good reason why he's supporting Obama, even though that is why he was on the program. Every talk show host interrupts to a degree, because if they don't, guests get sidetracked, go off subject, waste valuable airtime saying nothing. You clearly have not projected yourself into the role of a talk show host to see what you would do. But then maybe talk show hosts should just be lemmings and let the guesta walk all over them and control the whole program. You clearly don't listen to Laura Ingraham because: 1) you are not educated on the issues; and 2) if you listened you would know she is nothing even close to being a shock-jock. And speaking of out-of-touch, how many people do you have listening to YOUR political opinions or buying YOUR books? Somebody's listening to HER and buying HER books. Now who did you say was out-of-touch?
People are "moderate" because they do not know enough about the issues to make a real decision on what they support and believe. They are easily swayed from one side to the other each time they hear another argument because they have not thought that particular argument through yet and haven't come to a stand on it. People are moderates because they are uninformed on all the facts of the issues and generally don't care about many of them. As you say, you just don't care that much. And that, my dear, is the problem with where America is now. The majority of the population does not take the time necessary to inform and educate themselves on the issues of the day, and therefore can't take an intelligent, informed part in decision-making, causing the election of a bunch of idiot, power-hungry, $$ mongers, resulting in the problems we have today. Thats what we get when we don't care. And then to make up for it, we try to take the easy way out (rather than spending time getting involved in being educated on the issues) by jumping on the bandwagon of some charismatic, emotion-arousing leader who doesn't stand for anything good for them such as Castro and Hitler for instance (and here we go again with Obama). Yeah, because Obama gives us HOPE! (Castro did that too). Yes, Obama does give some HOPE, but HOPE ALONE never accomplished anything.
So you don't want to go back to the days of Billary. Well, you haven't seen anything yet until you get to the days of Obama. He will move us closer to communism than Bill and Hillary ever would have. And we thought they were bad! Obama is a socialist. And just watch the news for his CONNECTIONS and ASSOCIATIONS over the past decade, and then ask yourself if you really want a guy like that as a President? Change can be good, or change can be bad. Which direction do you want to go? Well, then you better make sure you know WHY and HOW change will take you to a better place.
At least you are honest about the fact that you are more concerned about "how they present their case to me." Well, Obama is a great presenter, but nothing behind it that you would really like if you really knew what it was. Just pay attention the next few months and you'll learn what's behind it. The stuff is starting to come out now, thankfully.
Conservatism has nothing to do with color of skin or nationality. You are really very confused. You are lumping everyone together in groups that are so convoluted I can't even discuss it with you. The only way we can have a discussion about that is if you educate yourself on CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES and don't confuse them with race, nationality, sex. BIGOTS are not the same thing as CONSERVATIVES, and if you think conservatives sound like bigots, get a grip on reality! The MEDIA wants you to think that so they present them that way. They twist and spin their words, use quotes out-of-context and make it look that way. If you had cared enough to pay attention to issues like this, I woudn't have to inform you of that. Sure, there are SOME conservatives who are bigots, but there are ALSO PLENTY OF LIBERALS who are bigots.
And your statement that "they may not think they're racist" is absolutely INSANE. How about me telling you that I know what you believe better than you do? LOL Yeah, that'll fly, won't it? There is nobody who knows better than a person himself whether he is a racist or not. Whether they will admit it to you is the issue, not whether they know it or not. Please, be less shallow in your conclusions, would you?
And speaking of racist -- are you aware of Obama's minister's racist positions he condones in his church that Obama and Michelle condone? (Or are you one of those fools who thinks black people can't be racist because they're not a majority? LOLOL)
As far as anti-immigration and closing the borders: conservatives are NOT AGAINST IMMIGRATION, and don't want borders completely closed. Conservatives want LEGAL IMMIGRATION. We have LAWS (get it?) that control how immigration operates, and those laws are set for a REASON. We want them ENFORCED. We want the borders ENFORCED, not CLOSED. (OMG, I'm sorry this is going on so long, but this post I am responding to is so idiotic that it is taking me ages to point out what is obvious to most thinking adults.) Your belief in this area is EXACTLY what the liberal media has been feeding you, but it is so untrue, it's ridiculous. This is what I am talking about when I say the "liberalization of our society." You are a victim of it and you don't have a clue that you are. You have soaked up their B.S. like a sponge, without using your consciousness and using your working brain to decide otherwise, for YOURSELF.
No, the folks like you who are not thinking and are only listening to the liberal media outlets are the ones who have, over time, hijacked the Republican Party, and caused division and disunity by bringing your crappy media-induced liberalness into the party and its decision-making process. And do you know, the fact that you are sick of it is exactly what the liberals wanted to happen? The plan was for decades to destroy the Republican party and you are playing right into their hands. You should have them pay you. Send them a bill for helping them accomplish their long-term goals.
That's why I say get rid of all the phoney Republicans who only think they are Republicans, and let us have our conservative party back. Quit trying to disrupt and destroy our organization. If you don't have conservative principles, there are plenty of places for you to go to join. And the best to you.
Now, can you tell me some POLICY issues that Obama and you have in common? So far, I haven't heard any from anyone. And then also include, HOW Obama is going to accomplish his visions. Include the COST, and how it will be paid for, because so far, all of Obama's programs are so expensive they will NEVER happen because we simply DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY FOR THEM. Period. I repeat -- THEY WILL NEVER MATERIALIZE BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE, REPEAT, WE DO NOT HAVE, THE MONEY FOR THEM. --- Yeah, I can say I'm gonna go buy a $10 million house, a Ferrari, and take a cruise around the world, and it's all because I have a right to it. Well, it AINT GONNA HAPPEN CUZ I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. GET A REALITY CHECK!
Reading the fallacies in this post have confirmed once again to me that America is truly in trouble. America will pay dearly for the ignorance of it's people, as they will continue to elect rulers who are a reflection of the mass consciousness. And when the masses are ignorant, uninformed, led into falsehoods by media, the rest of us can't stop it. After a few years of conditions like the 1930's (bet you don't even know what happened in the 30's), fools will be more willing to listen to the wise.
All I can tell the rest of you is to PROTECT YOURSELVES. Do all the survival things necessary to keep your family and yourselves alive, safe, and healthy while the fools, morons and emmisaries of evil are running the country. We are headed for a very dark time. Then maybe, with God's help, we will make it to a point where people have learned through their pain, and we can build again UNIFIED with practicality and common sense."
Bless you Emily from Bouncing Reality Checks for your courage in attempting to get through to these folks. One thing you have surely done is to prove that Republicans for Obama is a sham org set up for the gullible!!!
Saturday, May 10, 2008
Republicans for Obama Phony as Suspected
Monday, May 5, 2008
UPDATE to Flight 93 post
Cross-posted from Faultline USA
H/T to Cao's Blog
This is the update to Cao's Flight 93 post
Sunday, May 4, 2008
Revisiting Obama’s Liberation Theology Church
Cross-posted from Faultline USA
In March of 2007, I wrote an article expressing grave concerns about Obama’s Liberation Theology church and his controversial pastor, Jeremiah Wright. Last year few Americans, other than Theologians or graduates from left-leaning seminaries such as Brite Divinity School, even knew about Liberation Theology.
The following republished article exposed the truth about Jeremiah Wright’s church and quotes from the works of James H. Cone, one of the primary authors of Black Liberation Theology. Additionally provided are some important points about the grave dangers of Liberation Theology written in 1984 by Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger (Pope Benedict XVI).
Following is the text from Obama’s Marxist Liberation Theology Church :
The best lie is a little pig that’s always hidden between several fluffy layers of truth and covered with a lot of lipstick and charisma.
This is a follow-up to yesterday’s article originally posted on Right Truth and here “What Obama’s Church Preaches”
Note: This article isn’t so much about religion as it is about the politics of political revolution as fomented in all Liberation Theology churches.
Read also the post by Church and State: Obama's Pastor Embarrasses Entire Congregation. Be sure to View the video where “Rev. Dr. Jeremiah Wright, Barak Obama's pastor, went on Hannity & Colmes last night to respond to claims that his church is a black separatist congregation.”
Obama’s pastor, Rev. Dr. Jeremiah Wright, continued to evade Hannity while he hammered away asking again and agin if Hannity had ever read James H. Cone, one of the primary authors of Black Liberation Theology.
Oddly enough, I just happen to have several of Cone’s works on hand. Here’s just a little from Cone’s classic book A Black Theology of Liberation (Twentieth Anniversary Edition):
Emphasis added by me:
The definition of Jesus as black is crucial for christology if we truly believer in his continued presence today. Taking our clue from the historical Jesus who is pictured in the New Testament as the Oppressed One, what else, except blackness, could adequately tell us the meaning of his presence today? Any statement about Jesus today that fails to consider blackness as the decisive factor about his person is a denial of the New Testament message. The life, death, and resurrection of Jesus reveal that he is the man for others, disclosing to them what is necessary for their liberation from oppression. If this is true, then Jesus Christ must be black so that blacks can know that their liberation is his liberation. . .
The black Christ is he who threatens the structure of evil as seen in white society, rebelling against it, thereby becoming the embodiment of what the black community knows that it must become. . .
To be a disciple of the black Christ is to become black with him. Looting, burning, or the destruction of white property are not primary concerns. Such matters can only be decided by the oppressed themselves who are seeking to develop their images of the black Christ. . .
Whites do not recognize what is happening, and they are thus unable to deal with it. For most whites in power, the black community is a nuisance –something to be considered only when the natives get restless. But what white America fails to realize is the explosive nature of the kingdom. Although its beginning is small, it will have far-reaching effects not only on the black community but on the white community as well. Now is the time to make decisions about loyalties, because soon it will be too late. Shall we or shall we not join the black revolutionary kingdom?
An excellent overview of the grave dangers of Liberation Theology was written in 1984 by Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger (Pope Benedict XVI).
Here are some of the important points Ratzinger makes about Liberation Theology:
1. Liberation Theology has it center of power in Latin America and in African Theology, but is found in many Christian denominations throughout the Third World.
2. Liberation Theology is a new interpretation of Christian reality.
3. Liberation Theology is radically Marxist. “ . . .the world must be interpreted in terms of the class struggle and that the only choice is between capitalism and Marxism.”
4. Liberation Theology thrives on perpetuating class struggle. The only people of the Church are those who participate in class struggle.
5. Liberation Theology is a theology of bloody political revolution. All of Christian reality is reduced to politico-social liberation praxis (action).
6. Liberation Theology rejects traditional scriptural interpretations. “The experience of the "community" determines the understanding and the interpretation of Scripture. . . Ultimately, what is normative for interpretation is not historical research but the hermeneutic of history experienced in the community or the political group.”
7. Liberation Theology makes the Bible subject to a Marxist view of history. “The "historicality" of the Bible must justify its absolute dominance and thus legitimize the' transition to materialist-marxist philosophy, in which history has taken over the role of God. . . historical criticism has loosed Scripture from the traditional interpretation, which now appears to be unscientific.
8. Liberation Theology is a threat to the faith of the Christian Church.
Here Ratzinger analyzes some of the central concepts of Liberation Theology:
Faith: Jesus' experience of God is radically historical. "His faith is transformed into fidelity." Thus faith is fundamentally replaced by "fidelity to history". . .
Hope is interpreted as "confidence in the.future" and as working for the future and thus is subordinated once more to the history of class conflict. . .
Love consists in the "option for the poor"; i.e., it coincides with opting for the class struggle. . .
Kingdom of God: “ . .the Kingdom must not be understood in a spiritualist or universalist manner, not in the sense of an abstract eschatological eventuality. It must be understood in partisan terms and with a view to praxis. The meaning of the Kingdom can only be defined by reference to the praxis of Jesus, not theoretically: it means working at the historical reality that surrounds us in order to transform it into the Kingdom.”
Overcoming Dualism “Here we must mention another basic idea of a particular postconciliar theology which has led in this direction. People said that after the Council every dualism must be overcome: the dualism of body and soul, of natural and supernatural, of this world and the world beyond, of then and now. Once these supposed dualisms had been eliminated, it only remained to work for a kingdom to be realized in present history and in politicoeconomic reality. This meant, however, that one had ceased to work for the benefit of people in this present time and had begun to destroy the present in the interests of a supposed future: thus the real dualism had broken loose.”
Note: The above explanation of overcoming dualism certainly gives us some insight into the suicidal nature of leftist thought!
Death and Resurrection: “ . . . Man has taken over God's gesture — this manifests the whole transformation of the biblical message in an almost tragic way . . .”
Eucharist is interpreted as a celebration of liberation in the sense of politico-messianic hope and praxis.
The word redemption is largely replaced by liberation, which is seen, against the background of history and the class struggle, as a process of progressive liberation.
Action is truth “. . . The only true orthodoxy is therefore orthopraxy.”
Ratzinger’s Summary
In trying to arrive at an overall evaluation it must be said that, if one accepts the fundamental assumptions which underlie liberation theology, it cannot be denied that the whole edifice has an almost irresistible logic. By adopting the position of biblical criticism and of a hermeneutics that grows through experience, on the one hand, and of the marxist analysis of history, on the other, liberation theologians have succeeded in creating a total picture of the Christian reality, and this total view seems to respond fully both to the claims of science and to the moral challenges of our time, urging people to make Christianity an instrument of concrete world transformation; it seems to have united Christianity, in this way, with all the "progressive forces" of our era. One can understand, therefore, that this new interpretation of Christianity should have exercised an increasing fascination over theologians, priests and religious, particularly against the background of Third World problems. To say "no" to it must seem to them to be a flight from reality as well as a denial of reason and morality. On the other hand, if one considers how radical this reinterpretation of Christianity is, it is all the more pressing to find the right answer to the challenge which it presents. We shall only survive this crisis if we succeed in making the logic of faith visible in an equally compelling manner and in presenting it as a logic of reality, i.e., manifesting the concrete force of a better answer attested in lived experience. Since it is so, since thought and experience, interpretation and realization, are equally called for, it is a task for the whole Church. Theology alone is insufficient, Church authority alone is insufficient. Since the phenomenon of liberation theology indicates a lack of conversion in the Church, a lack of radical faith, only an increase in conversion and faith can arouse and elicit those theological insights and those decisions on the part of the shepherds which will give an answer to the magnitude of the question.
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U.N. to Teach Americans How to Change their Behavior
Cross-posted from Faultline USA 
"Worldwide, food prices have risen 45% in the past nine months, posing a crisis for millions, says the United Nations' Food and Agriculture Organization.
Because of the current economics of food, and changes in federal farm subsidy programs designed to make farmers rely more on the markets, large U.S. reserves may be gone for a long time.
The upshot: USDA has almost no extra food to supplement the billions in cash payments it spends to combat hunger at home and in developing nations. "
Saturday, May 3, 2008
Dallas CBS Affiliate Buries Negative Jeremiah Wright News
Cross-posted from Faultline USA
Update May 1st
Those of us who have written to Dallas CBS have received the identical e-mail response"
"Thanks for your e-mail regarding the Reverend Jeremiah Wright story you saw on CBS11 News last night at 10 p.m. I want to clarify the story. Reverend Wright was in Dallas on Sunday conducting services at Friendship West Baptist Church. Our story last night involved negative comments made by Reverend Wright about Texas Christian University during a speech at the church. Upon further review of the tape of the speech, we were mistaken. We regret the error and offer our sincere apologies to Reverend Wright, Friendship West Baptist Church, TCU and our viewers. We will air a correction in tonight's 10 p.m. newscast. Thanks again for your e-mail and for watching CBS11 News.Scott DienerNews DirectorCBS11/TXA21Dallas/Fort Worth"
You can buy that explanation if you like. One of our readers at Jus' Sayin' was kind enough to run down the sponsors for the 10 PM news just in case you want to write to complain.
Here are the sponsors that I listed from the News .
Local: Rooms to Go, Trophy Nissan, Central Kia, Stanley Steamer, Keller CitizensVan, Hyundai
National Ads For Regional release: KIA, Scholtzskys, N Texas Ford Dealer, GMC NTGMC (that would be Wood as the largest) Target, Circuit City, Toyota Trucks, Ross
Frankly folks, the so-called MSM is pretty irresponsible to publish or broadcast any story without checking out the facts first. Then to yank the original story is just plain cowardly. How's about leaving the original story in tack on your web page and then broadcasting a "correction" and publishing a retraction instead?
See Original Story Below:
Twelve hours ago CBS 11, Dallas, Texas published an article:
“Obama's Former Pastor Calls TCU A Godless College.” If you click on the link, however, you will find that the page has suddenly been removed.
It would appear that although most of the national news media and pundits both left and right have labeled Wright’s latest comments as egocentric and harmful to Obama, CBS 11 Dallas has chosen sides and Wright has won this battle - at least in Dallas. This is not a good omen for Obama!
This is the Google News Alert I received this morning:
Obama's Former Pastor Calls TCU A Godless CollegeCBS 11 - Dallas,TX,USA"He's upset that Brite Divinity School and TCU didn't support everything that he said," said TCU sophomore Tory McGee. "It's a decision that TCU made and it ...See all stories on this topic
Because CBS 11 Dallas is at the home of much of the controversy, we are left to surmise what Wright actually said about TCU. Here’s an excerpt from my March 19th post, Brite Divinity School to Honor Rev. Jeremiah Wright
“TCU Chancellor Victor J. Boschini Jr. said Monday that "TCU supports the right of free speech even when the opinions expressed are controversial. That is what a university is about. But giving an award is another matter, and in this specific case in light of Reverend Wright's recently discovered remarks, TCU would not give such an award . . .”
Would you like to read what Jeremiah Wright actually said about TCU??? Write to CBS 11 and demand that they replace the article that they removed.
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